Orbis were contacted following the refusal of planning permission for a significant outbuilding on land within the plot of a large detached house, sited within the North York Moors National Park. To compound matters the site is also in a conservation area. On close inspection it was clear that whilst there were aspects of the case up for debate, much of the refusal simply did not make planning sense. We know that it is up to council’s to back up their refusals with real evidence, and a failure to do that means they cannot sustain that line of refusal. Knowing this, we were able single out and test the council’s reasons, bring out the salient points and address these methodically thorough landscape and visual impact assessment and other evidential argument.